after all, it's rated PG
Point says:
Men- how old were you when you were allowed to watch one of the greatest movies of all time? The 1976 Academy Awards Best Picture.... Of course im talking about "Patton." I dont remember how old i was when i saw it, but i know i was younger than blake. Hell, i saw the "good the bad and the ugly" by his age. I think it's totally appropriate for young boys to see the classic and epic war movies to give them a good perspective of good and evil. To nurture every young boys drive and desire to watch and learn our countries wonderful history and understand that hardships that our fathers and grandfathers went through and the sacrifices they made.
jennster cries:
good.freaking.god. not.this.topic. fine. FINE!!!! i don't think that blake has any need to see certain movies at his age. which is why i don't let him watch anything PG-13 (i had to watch the harry potter rated pg-13 before i would let him see it). i just think that before we know it, he'll be watching so much crap that i don't think there is any reason to subject him to it now. he's 8 freaking years old. times have changed. kids bring guns to school now and shoot the people they go to school with. i would have to watch patton before i would ever let blake see it and then make the decision on whether it is something that is appropriate or not. blake has the want to see certain movies, but it's my job as his mom to decide if it's right or not. the other thing about these old war movies, is that they are totally over blake's head. he does not understand the story, the history, or anything they talk about. all he freaking processes is the war scenes, the guns, and the crap like that. stuff that i don't really feel like fueling in him... i don't want him to be obsessed with war and shooting and i don't want him to think guns are "cool." because they aren't. and i know that boyfriend is going to say that these movies are all PG, but that's because it was before PG-13 even existed, so that "excuse" doesn't work with me.
Point says:
Its your job to protect him and be sensitive but its "our job" to make him well rounded and balanced. Im not saying that he picks up on everything in the movies but its a starting point and eventually you get the things that go along with it. Its an important part of building a foundation of respect and honor for our nations military and country. I think its better to watch them supervised with someone that understands and will help explain the gravity of the situations in the movies.
btw: guns are cool.
jennster:
all i want is for there to be balance and reason. i'm not opposed to him watching them EVER, i just don't think he should be watching certain things right this very moment! why does he "need" it? what does it offer him positively right now that he is actually understanding and comprehending??? nothing. those movies are so far above his head and you know it. you just don't want to admit it because you want to watch them with him. which is fine, but why does it have to be NOW????
Men- how old were you when you were allowed to watch one of the greatest movies of all time? The 1976 Academy Awards Best Picture.... Of course im talking about "Patton." I dont remember how old i was when i saw it, but i know i was younger than blake. Hell, i saw the "good the bad and the ugly" by his age. I think it's totally appropriate for young boys to see the classic and epic war movies to give them a good perspective of good and evil. To nurture every young boys drive and desire to watch and learn our countries wonderful history and understand that hardships that our fathers and grandfathers went through and the sacrifices they made.
jennster cries:
good.freaking.god. not.this.topic. fine. FINE!!!! i don't think that blake has any need to see certain movies at his age. which is why i don't let him watch anything PG-13 (i had to watch the harry potter rated pg-13 before i would let him see it). i just think that before we know it, he'll be watching so much crap that i don't think there is any reason to subject him to it now. he's 8 freaking years old. times have changed. kids bring guns to school now and shoot the people they go to school with. i would have to watch patton before i would ever let blake see it and then make the decision on whether it is something that is appropriate or not. blake has the want to see certain movies, but it's my job as his mom to decide if it's right or not. the other thing about these old war movies, is that they are totally over blake's head. he does not understand the story, the history, or anything they talk about. all he freaking processes is the war scenes, the guns, and the crap like that. stuff that i don't really feel like fueling in him... i don't want him to be obsessed with war and shooting and i don't want him to think guns are "cool." because they aren't. and i know that boyfriend is going to say that these movies are all PG, but that's because it was before PG-13 even existed, so that "excuse" doesn't work with me.
Point says:
Its your job to protect him and be sensitive but its "our job" to make him well rounded and balanced. Im not saying that he picks up on everything in the movies but its a starting point and eventually you get the things that go along with it. Its an important part of building a foundation of respect and honor for our nations military and country. I think its better to watch them supervised with someone that understands and will help explain the gravity of the situations in the movies.
btw: guns are cool.
jennster:
all i want is for there to be balance and reason. i'm not opposed to him watching them EVER, i just don't think he should be watching certain things right this very moment! why does he "need" it? what does it offer him positively right now that he is actually understanding and comprehending??? nothing. those movies are so far above his head and you know it. you just don't want to admit it because you want to watch them with him. which is fine, but why does it have to be NOW????
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posted by j.sterling at 12:46 AM
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We let our older boys watch the rated R war movie "Glory" at a pretty young age (10ish).
. . . of course now they are wild hellions, so maybe that back fired.
In general, I wouldn't worry too much about a PG-13 movie if a parent is there with him.
Jenn, I'm with you completely. I never saw the original "Bad News Bears" and I always thought it was a wholesome Little League movie. Why, I didn't think "wholesome" and "Billy Bob Thornton" don't go together, I don't know, but I have never heard such foul language. The movies are rated PG-13 for a reason. Our kids are young, there is plenty of time for them to grow up. Besides, when you watch Patton you don't want it to be "cool" like our kids would probably think when they shoot the enemy, you want them to learn from history and make sure they understand so much of the movie that they will do everything in their power to not let their country get into another war. Guns are taken too lightly by kids nowadays and they have no idea that a gun could take someone's life away FOREVER. Sometimes I don't think they understand FOREVER at this age. They just understand the here and now, not the consequences. They will be 13 soon enough, we can deal with it then.
Yeah, but it's not like Point is suggesting a viewing of "Pulp Fiction." There is a huge difference betweeen gratuitious violence and what he would see in Patton.
As for kids today and how lightly they take the presence of guns, I always like to point out the scene in Charlotte's Web where Fern's brother Avery grabs his shotgun before heading out to the school bus. Today Avery would be locked up.
Not that I'm advocating guns. I don't have 'em and don't like 'em, I'm just saying that there is a big difference between Patton and. . say, "Grand Theft Auto."
20-30 years ago you never heard about kids going and shooting up schools...nowadays...if it happens tomorrow...most people wouldn't even blink an eye.
The difference between then and now? Parents have become far too sensitive of what their children see and hear on a daily basis.
I don't think it hurts to him to watch a movie like that especially if a parent is there to explain to him what exactly it is that he is seeing. (especially when the "cool" parts come on.)
At 8 he's probably watching worse. I saw Patton much later, but I'm sure I saw other war films by that age. I don't really see the problem, especially if he watches it with Dad.
But, by the way, didn't Rocky win Best Picture in 1976? Patton was earlier.
darren my bad....
1970.
Our twins are eight as well. We've let them watch some PG-13 movies with us...so we can "explain" some of the questionable material. Sometimes it's a good way to do a little teaching about violence, guns, sex (UGHH...)
The only issue I've had with my husband about this topic was when he recently decided to introduce them to the humor of Monty Python...and God, don't get me started on that damn X-Box!
Well, I'm going to have to side with Point on this one. The movie would give him a start to the history behind it.
He wouldn't understand the whole thing, but he'll start learning about all of the historical details soon enough in school.
RWA you are the man.
he might even learn what memorial day actually is!
Patton? For real?
I'm all for teaching about history and all that, but at 8?
I think 12 or 13 is soon enough.
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